Northern Section

To be held at Trinity Methodist Church, Trinity Road, Sale, Cheshire, M33 3ED at 7.30pm for 8.00pm, unless otherwise stated

Friday 14 June

Comic, Novelty and Advertising Clocks & Watches

Friday 12 July

CLUB NIGHT: 30 Hour Clocks

Friday 9 August

CLUB NIGHT: Tools and materials

Friday 13 September

CLUB NIGHT: American clocks and watches


Full Programme for 2024 (PDF download, updated 7 May)


Recent Meetings

Reports of previous meetings 2023 2022 2021 2020 2019 2018 2017

Chronographs, stopwatches and portable timers (April 2024)

This topic inspired members to search their collections; the image below shows a large display which was brought by just one member.

It includes timers for photography, aircraft, cookery, telephone call charges, medical and military uses. Amongst the chronographs and stopwatches there were examples made specifically for timing torpedoes, split second chronographs for timing race horses and for yacht racing, chronographs for aircraft use including one with a slide rule for calculating fuel usage, early automatic chronographs by Zenith, Universal Geneve and Omega and a French tachymetre for calculating speed or distance travelled.

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Items shown by other members included a Cadencia portable metronome by Swiss Home Watch Company and a pocket watch which doubled as a thermometer; a Russian chronograph and an example signed by M. Hoffenberg of Leeds; a heavy, Blick portable time recorder and a timer rescued by a member from his workplace when it was scrapped 20 years ago – surprisingly its battery is still working!

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Cadencia portable metronome.
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Pocket watch by Louis Appolt incorporating a thermometer.
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Electronic timer rescued in 2003 by a member from his workplace when it was no longer required. It can time intervals from one hundredth of a second to 10 hours. Its original power source (which is unknown) is still capable of running and displaying the timer.


An update on research into James Condliff, his family and their clocks. (March 2024)

Although many of James Condliff’s clocks are widely admired, the range of the work of three generations of Condliff clockmakers is probably better known in the north of England than elsewhere. Whilst touching upon much of the ground covered by Darlah Thomas in the London Lecture of January 2024, this talk included further information which has recently come to light. The images below illustrate some of the range of products made by the Condliff family.

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This is the turret clock made by James Condliff in 1854 for Walton Jail, Liverpool, (now known as HMP Liverpool). It has been replaced by an electric clock but the mechanism is now displayed in the main entrance of the prison. Photo: Sue Harris, HMP Liverpool, 2021
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This skeleton clock is a Series 1-2 hybrid timepiece. It has a brass frame with its winding barrel set within the movement arch, and a serpent, balance wheel and helical spring mounted in the lower area which are all characteristics of Series One clocks. However, it has a single chapter ring which is familiar on James Condliff’s Series Two and Three skeleton clocks. Each clock in this hybrid series is different from all the others, usually in the position of the barrels, the shape and position of the serpent, or its complete absence and some have a strike or ting tang chime on gongs in the timber base. Photo: Dreweatts
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A classic style Condliff regulator with a 12 inch dial. There is no name on the dial but on the movement there is the Condliff stamp and the name of the original purchaser: Jno B. McFadden, 1832, a Pittsburgh jeweller, watch and clock maker. It is a high quality, top of the range instrument with all the refinements required by the serious horologist or astronomer of its time. The Condliff stamp is to be found on the base of the movement’s front plate. Photo: Jonny Flower
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Many clocks made by the Condliff family in Liverpool were sold by retailers whose names appear on their dials. This is a two train table clock signed by retailer: Josh Penlington. Several clocks with similar inlaid brass inset in different patterns have appeared on the market in recent years. The Condliff stamp is on the back of this movement.


Bring and display: horological items relating to X, Y and Z. (February 2024)

Members found these letters challenging, but some lateral thinking resulted in an interesting evening. Items shown are listed below and a selection of images is included:

Letter X. This being the most difficult letter, some interpretations were creative …

Ten horological reference books (X the Roman numeral for 10)

Ex-military items:-
A wristwatch by Omega dated 1943 which was issued by the RAF.
A mechanism for timing aircraft turns, probably dating to WWll, marked ‘Signal Corps US Army’, and ‘Sangamo Electric Company, Illinois’.

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Letter Y.

Three pocket watches signed ‘Thomas Yates, Preston’. These were hallmarked 1849, 1860 and 1873. In addition, there were two 1920s Yates watch keys, each showing a different numbered location within Friargate, Preston.

Two items connected with America – Yanks!
A girl on a swing replaced a standard pendulum on a very decorative clock.
US government ‘Marathon’ chronometer.

A 1960s year-going longcase clock by Peter Bradley of Leicester.

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Letter Z.

Three pocket watches:
James Lowe, Hazel Grove’ [Stockport].
A warranted railway timekeeper signed by CB Mazzucchi, Crook, [County Durham].
A fine movement and dial only, signed Zimmerman, Liverpool, number 16158.

Two Swiss quartz ‘carriage clocks’ made by Imhof, one signed ‘Garrard’ and the other ‘Garrard & Co., London’.

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Prescot Time Ball Project opening (January 2024)

Thirty-two Northern Section members and guests were invited to a simple opening ceremony at the Prescot Time Ball Project on 13th January 2024. We were the guests of Ron Musker and his family; Ron has been the driving force behind this project. A few years ago, Ron purchased an old time ball which had once been mounted on Beale’s Building in Islington, London. When that building was demolished in 1970, the ball became redundant after eighty years’ service. It arrived in Prescot in poor condition, but Ron had plans. The Flat Iron Building in Prescot which Ron had owned since the 1970s was ready for refurbishment and as it had a significant place in the town’s horological history as the home of the Lancashire Watch Company office, strong room, a few workshops and small warehouse, it was ideal for his purpose - to have a functioning time ball on his building as a beacon of the town’s horological past. We were there to witness the project’s completion.

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Jim Arnfield welcomed members and guests and then Justin Koullapis, who has been interested in the project since it began, spoke on the history of time balls and of Prescot’s former role in our horological history.
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The clock for the project was made by John Johnson of Prescot c.1815. Johnson’s workshop was about 100 metres from the Flat Iron Building.
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The time ball before restoration.
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The ball lifting-arm during construction.
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The horological team. From left: Phil Irvine, Ron Musker, Jim Arnfield, Brian Percival.
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The project apparatus complete.
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The apparatus is located in the stairwell of the building just inside the entrance hall.
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The Flat Iron Building with the time ball raised during a period of testing (that is why the clock is showing 11 o’clock). It will rise to the top of the pole a few minutes before 1pm daily and drop exactly as the clock strikes one o’clock.


AGM and video presentation (January 2024)

The meeting opened with the usual greetings and notices and then the AGM followed. Once the formal proceedings were completed, we had a refreshment break and then the group was shown a video entitled The Anatomy of a Singing Bird Box. The box, thought to date to c1865, was made by Frenchman Jacques Bruguier (1801-1871) who worked in Geneva.

The film was made and narrated by John Moorhouse and explains the construction and operation of the box and its bird automaton which John had the task of restoring. He explained some of the problems he faced and detailed how to set up and adjust the mechanism.

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